rubymurray - If Hamilton is so much more talented than Massa and everyone else like you say, surely he would have wrapped up this years championship along time ago and probably won last year as well. So how come we have two races to go and he is only 5 points ahead?! pulmomed - If I remember correctly Massa did get penalised in Japan. He actually got the STANDARD penalty for causing a collision! JamesTheHunt - He probably hasn't been banned because the type of risky overtaking that Hamilton produces race after race are a regular occurrence in most of the lower categories of motorsport. I don't know if you've ever watched a GP2 race but there is overtaking at almost every corner and most of the moves aren't clean. It is meant to be the best, cleanest, tidiest drivers that make it into F1 but even you must admit that Hamiltons driving style isn't exactly clean and tidy! I like to see overtaking but as long as they are clean moves. These are supposed to be the best drivers in the world so they should be able to overtake without forcing other cars off the track or making someone take avoiding action otherwise they would crash.
Elvis beavis the race you are refering to where Kimi ran his own pitman down was also Valencia.
this is crazy - in all liklihood the only beneficiary from a Hamilton - Massa crash would be Hamilton because he would maintain the points lead. Massa would have to be an idiot to try it deliberately. If anything it was Hamilton, knowing he had to pit soon and that his race was looking pretty bad, who was reckless in trying the overtake. He seemed to have a devil may care attitude - if he took out Massa and didn't finish himself then so much the better.
Our Lewis deserves a headline again. Put up or shut up Hamilton. You have the potential to be great but the whining must stop. Massa was clearly out of control in the incident and got penalized for his mistake. There was nothing deliberate in this. But I'm wondering if Hamilton actually made this statement or if it is not some bad reporting by someone again just to write something that nobody can change as no one can change the past
Eventhough I am a McLaren fan, Poor Lewis, please do not blame others, just keep your mouth shut and move on, do not make the same mistake for the next 2 races, because you still have a 5 point lead.
It's not about who likes who etc I will admit I am a Hamilton fan but it's the inconsistency of the penalties being dished out the is the real problem. Anyone other than a 'red' team member seems to be hit harder!
b19uks, Let me refresh your memory about pit lane stupidity. Canada, Ferrari release Kimi into the path of Kubica causing them to race two abreast in the pit lane. (an incident completely overlooked, probably due to the excitement that followed), Valencia. Ferrari release Massa into the path of Sutil. Singapore, Ferrari release Massa into the pit lane into the path of Sutil (again) but this time with the fuel rig still attached to his car. And I don't remember which race but Kimi also run over one of his mechanics this year. So if I may point out to you that you've probably been watching F1 for as long a time as you say but through rosso red colour specs.
I believe hamilton is like Massa was when he used to drive for sauber petronas. disaster on wheels. Only he is a lot faster. that is the only difference. a very stupid move he made in japan, the same in belgium, the overtake in france of vettel and lets not forget the pitlane incident in canada. i have been watching formula one for a long time. i might be wrong but i can't remember anyone being that stupid in the pitlane. this is his second year. he has made more mistakes this year then he did last year. i believe Massa deserves to win this year on the ground that he has improved more and has made less mistakes then hamilton. kubica would be good as well.
finishline, I completely agree. There you have a detailed account of lewis' "driving style". I couldn't have put it better myself.
How strange, It took him 24 hrs to come up with this gem. Funny how he never mentioned any improper conduct by Massa at the time he was interviewed after the race. I would have thought any driver who had someone deliberately run into them would be chomping at the bit to tell the press all about it. Funny that he only thought about this after the post race Maclaren pep talk - its a pathetic attempt to blame others.Blame is one thing, but to say it was deliberate -well the guys an idiot if he really thinks people will have sympathy for him after saying this. Lets not forget Maclaren have been caught lying not so long ago .... Pinochio anyone?
again ferrari are helped to win a situation that another team would be peanilised for,All teams can race as long as you do not beat a ferrari on the track
If lewis hamiltons name was schumaker what would finishline say then. Hamilton can't do anything right as far as the stewards believe, any body with eyes could see that Massa was deliberately out to stop Hamilton any way he could.and as for the other so called drivers why do you think that they are where they are in the drivers table, they havn't got the skill or the nerve in the whole of thier bodies that Hamiltons got in his little finger.
If the crying child Hamilton thought Massa hit him on purpose, he should have been a man about it and gone and had it out with Massa after the race, I know I would have done. Stop bleeting on about every little thing, I am sick of hearing your idiot comments. You are paid to drive so shut up and DRIVE.
First of all, I am Brazilian. This put, my point of view is: 1) Hamilton penalty because of the start: exaggerated. He did cook his goose (and tires) himself with his outbraking. It was NOT a case for punishment. 2) Massa vs. Hamilton crash: Lewis may be wrong in saying that the crash was deliberate. But it was surely desperate. Both are tough, hard drivers. This time, Massa was correctly punished. 3) Massa vs. Bourdais episode: if there is any to blame, it would be the pit lane exit at Fuji, which seems to be TOO close to a difficult curve. Bourdais should NOT be punished in this case as he seemingly did nothing wrong. It looked like a normal race incident (Massa, in fact, should have been more careful). I surely want Massa to be the champion, but I can not agree to wrong decisions by FIA stewards.
I do not believe for one second that Massas actions were deliberate. It was a mistake pure and simple. He ran wide coming in to turn 10 Hamilton then went up the inside but then turned in to turn 11 simply expecting Massa to just let him go through which he didn't. Massa was penalised for causing a collision which is totally fair he was more to blame for the collision. Having said that Hamilton didn't leave him with too many options, it's not like in Spa were there was a nice smooth tarmac run off area to use in Japan it was gravel. Massa could have turned away and run across the gravel and lost time and probably 3 or 4 places whilst risking damaging the underside of his car and getting dirty tyres, and still probably collided with someone else when he came back on to the circuit. His only other option was to brake and if you brake on gravel at that sort of speed you just end up sliding. The simple FACT is that this was another example of Hamiltons 'get out of the way I am the great Lewis Hamilton and I am coming through' attitude. Any other driver would have given enough room for both cars to go round the corner safely and still complete the overtake. This is not the first time that Hamilton has forced people of the track unnecessarily whilst overtaking or defending his position, he did it to Glock and Webber at Monza, whilst overtaking Massa and Piquet in Germany, and at the first corner in Japan. The only difference this time is that Massa didn't just give in and turn away like Hamilton expects everyone should do, no he stood his ground and now Hamilton is complaining like the spoilt, arrogant brat he is because someone has finally given him a taste of his own medicine. If you can't take it then don't dish it out!
drakonid-hart, surely if the gap is only that small cos they both keep screwing up, then maybe their teamates would be ahead? are they? NO F1 Is a Sport I have watch for years, since I can remember, i've saved on a part time job when younger to go to SPA etc. and yet at the moment regardless of who wins and Why. I MAY STOP WATCHING. Simple fact is that Punishments are inconsistant, and NOT just biased against Lewis/Mclaren! AS I see it they are biased against the small teams aswell, here i refer to the Penalty given to Bordais, which was just Plain and simple Ridiculous! Ferrari International Assistance cocked up there as Bourdais car has Ferrari Engine!!!
And, of course, Massa was teammate to Michael Schumacher for a long time... These habits obviously rub off.
@Trackstaff WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?? First get yourself a clue and second stop posting rubbish!! Schumacher worse than Hamilton, he's a 7 time world champion so i thinks he's quite better than hamilton. The incident you post about didn't even happen!! I think you'll find that it was Belgian Grand Prix in 98 that Schu and Coultard (in a McLaren) collided. Coultard was a lap down and Schumacher was leading by nearly a minute (as he is the rainmaster). Schuy went to lap him and Coultard deliberately slowed down IN THE RAIN with the spray Schuey could see him and went into the back of him. Schuey then hunted down Coultard in the pits and laid into him because he nearly killed him!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!! Coultard even he admitted it was his fault! It could maybe have been a McLaren order to stop Schumacher scoring 10 points
trackstaff, when was the time schumi drove into mika hakkinen and try to assault him in the pits? i think you´re a bit mistaken... man you really don´t know your f1, do you? finishline i agree completely, this gentleman baby hammy, really does not learn. its going to be a very sad outcome for the championship, either way it goes. none of both main contenders deserve anything... i hope robert takes it, and i´m a ferrari fan
Trackstaff..... erm sorry but it was Coulthards car he drove into the back of. Please get facts right before spouting "FIA / Bias" gossip
Hey Trackstaff. It was David Coulthard not Mika Hakkinen. The race was SPA 98, visibility was terrible and Coulthard was a backmarker driving around without his rear light on. D.C. was completely wrong in the situation as it's against the regulations to drive around in the low visibility without rear lights on. His stupidity could have seriously injured Schumacher. If you going to try and state facts at least have them right.
Bakes, people thinks Schumacher is one of the best drives in history even though he wasnt the most popular driver on track when he was still collecting the racing paycheck. But hamilton is quite frankly the most UNPOPULAR driver on the track and with non british fans. So save it and the day hamilton really EARNS his 'best driver' credentials (and merely one championship doesnt count), is the day the sky is green.
There isnt anybody strictly to be blamed for this race. Hamilton or Massa, both had their 'Worst maneuvers in F1 history' moments. Neither deserves to be the world champion because the handful of points' difference at the end of the season is a result not of talent, but 'Skill' at screwing up.
Be careful Lewis some of the grapes are sour. I guess Lewis hasn't done anything wrong running into stationary Kimi in Canada, forcing Massa, Piquet nearly off the track in Germany when he didn't need to, doing the same to Glock and Alonso in Monza. Running the chicane in France to get ahead of Vettel at least he got a drive through for that - but did he learn? No because he did it again in Spa. Lewis before you start casting stones look at your own record you'll be surprised.
FIA stands for FERRARI INTERNATIONAL AUTOMOBILES. Any other teams on the same track as us, do so under OUR rules. Ferrari`s Mr. Schumcher was worse than Mr. Hamilton by some way. Like the time he destroyed his car by driving into the back of Mika Hakinnen. Then went and physically laid into him in the pits. What was his reprimand? nothing.
once again the colour red rules even when they don,t win.
piojitolindo, how can you say Hammy doesn't have a brain, he is A: pretty damn intelligent, and B: he has something which in the real world is called balls, which is something you need for motor-racing.
First i will start with listing my fav drivers in the my history of F1, Lewis Hamilton Michele schumacher Ayrton senna Nigel Mansell and to extent, Fernado alonso! Any1 see the link?(real fans will) The whole point is to race for victory is not? Yesterday lewis messed up, he tried a move and it never came off, does any of the idiots on this realise how hard it is just to drive an F1 car? But to punish him for trying to race is nonsense!, last race alonso took to escape road to avoid a crash, gained places doing so and never gave them back!, he then went on to win the race!, im not saying he didnt deserve his win(he did and im glad), schumacher punted villenvie(cant spell!) and was stripped of his points(rightly so!, though i was gutted!), the point is, racers race, other drivers just make up the numbers and grab what they can!. But the move by massa on hamilton was a deliberate shunt into side of him at an angle he knew would spin lewis out, thats not racing. its cheating!. As for the incident with bourdais, it beggars belief that he was punished for obeying the rules of racing!, he had the line, he stuck to it, never once interfering with massa, yet again he is punished!. I love this sport, but this year it has been tainted to point i wonder whether my sporting values will allow me to watch fixed results and politics played out on a racetrack?. This is in no way a reflection on the bull being banded about the bias toward ferrari, there is none, rather it is more about a ringmaster trying to make sure his circus keeps performing to his whip!. Remember the saying!, any publicity is good publicity!. But there is a dangerous thread that is starting to unravel, the hardcore fans(not the hanger ons that like 1 driver or another cause they are cute, black or whatever) are becoming alienated!. Just some rants from a true fan of the SPORT!, thanks for reading!.
I seem to remember the great Schumacher was not the most popular man on the grid, and neither for that matter was Senna. They are widely regarded as the best drivers the sport has ever seen. Cast your minds back to the wheel to wheel action, the Prost/Senna crashes, the Mansell/Piquet duals, Hill and Schumacher etc, etc -the greatest drivers are hard racers. Lewis Hamilton is similar in that repect. I like Massa, he's quick and likeable but I don't think he will end up being one of the greats. I don't care who wins the title out of the two but these penalties have to stop. It seems to be a farily recent phenomonen. We watch a race, generally these days they contain some very dubious decisions by the stewards which completely alter the outcome of the race, then we also find that after we think we have seen the end result we have to check the internet incase something has changed. And it usually has! Another ridiculous decision with the Bourdais penalty. If we all really do want to get the sport back to the halcion days of the Senna/Prost/Mansell era, with close exciting racing, not just processions, then we need to allow drivers to race. If I was a driver at the moment I would think twice about overtaking another car incase I got a 25 sec penalty!
How can anyone compare Lewis to Senna or Schuey? He is way too far. He doesn´t have a single neuron, yes he is hard and aggresive but witout a brain is like not having them at all.
Hamilton will be remembered in history as one of the great Formula 1 drivers - and will also be remembered as the next driver to cause a fatality in the sport. Anyone watching F1 objectively will see that this new exciting brand of driving that Hamilton has brought to the 2007/08 seasons is simply a style of 'here I come, get out of my way or risk losing your car'. Most drivers, presented with what some consider crossing the bounds of sportsman-like, or even safe, conduct, will of course get out of the way - if for nothing else to preserve the integrity of their chassis. That is hardly the spirit of the sport. No other driver on the circuit today has earned the reputation of impetuous driving that Hamilton has. Of course, many see Hamilton's win-at-any-cost manner as just good solid competititive driving. What is most surprising then about Fuji 2008 lap 2, turn 11, is that the same group of avid Hamilton supporters are condeming Massa for having the audacity to defend his ground in an aggressive manner during Hamilton's challenge, and now calling the contact deliberate. I suppose Hamiltonian-style moves in Formula 1 are superb, exciting, and 'good for the sport' - but only if done by Hamilton. As Massa said "It was a racing incident", and that's just what it was. What was it that Hamilton said after slamming into Raikkonen at Montreal? "It was one of those things I guess".
Don't say that Massa was forced out by Hamilton. This pic shows something else. http://www.motorsport-total.com/bilder/2008/081012/z1223798443.jpg
If the tables were turned... well, Hamilton would of been severely penalized. But, it was Massa, so, it's ok...right FIA?
The pictures are clear. Hamilton had the position. Massa dove down to the inside and tried to force Hamilton out of the turn. Has F1 suddenly become an arcade ride called "Bumper Car"??? Massa has a history of more than being aggressive in his driving. He cannot seem to believe that he can be at fault. And, in Spa, he believed he deserved that "win". Remember, Hamilton is only in Year 2 of his career in F1 and he is a top driver, leading the championship. He will make mistakes and still has a lot to learn. He is more like MS than anyone would care to admit. Massa can also make mistakes, even though he's a seasoned driver, but Massa never seems to admit to them. Remember the many incidents Massa has had with other drivers? Didn't he once force Kimi off the track in a blatantly illegal move and wasn't penalized? At least Ron Dennis has the common sense to mention that Lewis needs to be more prudent. I don't think you'd ever hear a Ferrari manager criticize one of their drivers, especially Massa. (However, rumor has it that "Monte" was upset with Kimi for not being in the points lead... having a reliable car would always help.) (BTW, when someone posts a comment, it's always helpful to actually type correctly so people can actually read the post.)
Hamilton's got more talent than Massa by a mile, Kimi was lucky to win the title last year having done nothing for 1/2 a season (Mclaren chucked it away) and it would be shocking for the sport if Massa wins it this year, he's a very average driver in a good car. Hamilton is no different to the great drivers of the pas like Schuey and Senna, hard and aggressive but fair. Massa could easily of avoided hitting Lewis but panicked after Lewis overtook him and drove across the grass and deliberatly hit him, that is fact and is why he was penalised. He than hit Bourdais later but Bourdais got penalised, unbelievable!! Any driver who brakes too late and runs wide on the 1st corner of the race will now get a drive through penalty, utter nonsense, that happens in every grand prix but yet again, Hamilton gets penalised for a non-offence when every other driver gets away with it like in Spa!
Until he opened his mouth again I believed that canada was a reflex action on his part.Anyone can watch and see as he is about to hit Kubica he steers left offline and goes into Kimi.Kubica even commented how lucky he was that Hamilton hit Kimi not him so now I am not so sure it was an avoiding move.
Hey Terji, which driving school did you go to? Felipe had a 3rd and 4th option, lift off and or brake! I remember Hamilton saying similar things after the incident at Spa, no where to go, was trying to avoid hitting him etc. so don¿t give me that Massa had no options! Another thing, why should Lewis give him the line, it¿s a race and Hamilton beat him to it! Finally, I would not dare say the Felipe Massa hit Lewis Hamilton deliberately, only he knows that, but to say LH is a dirty driver after what FM did to Sebastien Bourdais in turn 1 is contradictory! If LH is so dangerous and dirty then how the hell did he get from karting to GP2 without being banned!?! They are racing drivers, you want them to wave to each other and give way with a smile, then go to a fair ground you prat! Massa did wrong, just like Hamilton did at Spa and was punished for it, but why he wasn¿t punished for what he did to Sebastien is beyond me, I know SB had just come out of the pits and FM was on the pit straight, but SB did beat him to the corner, why didn¿t FM go wide like Webber did when he came out of the pits earlier in the race?! So Massa is just as dangerous and dirty as the rest of them, Q.E.D.
Hamilton is a fine one to talk about forcing people of the track and hitting people, just look what he did on the first lap in Japan and some of his driving in Monza wasn't exactly fair, he forced Webber and Glock off the road. Maybe he should stop complaining and think his own driving before he criticises anyone else!
Lewis is a good F1 driver...but why is it nothing he does is ever wrong, and always someone elses fault?! I'm not sure that Massa hit him deliberately, he knew there'd be consequences and wouldn't risk it!
oh diddums, golden boy doesnt like a taste of his own medicine, yet again. he forced massa off the track - he hardly cut the chicane, his wheels were half a foot off teh track, he hardly CUT it out. Of what consequence was it anyway? he got a penalty for doing more or less the same thing to kimi. massa got his penalty and finished in the points, golden boy didnt. oooh its all like last year isnt it. goldne boy losing his bottle again. all he ever does is force people off teh track and does nothing but urinate and moan when someone does it back to him. rough with the smooth golden boy. cannot believe how many 'lifelong' *coughs* 2007 *coughs* f1 fans there are now who know jack about the sport and think that spewis can do whatever he likes because he's their favourite driver, well, teh only driver they've ever heard of. get back to yer rugger
what a little sh*t! Why would Massa hit Hammy? There would be far too much risk - if they both didn't finish, Hammy would benefit. What an idiot. Hopfully Kimi and Alonso will knock the Ham off instead.
I find it hard to believe any driver would hit another car on purpose. With some much at stake, damaging your own car would of put Massa out of the race. Massa was definitely at fault and was punished accordingly, but did he do on purpose. i think not
hey challenge 360. are you one that is so stupid that you think that whatever ferrari do is correct? if you consider hitting someone deliberately is correct and entertaining then you dont have the simplest idea what f1 is all about, you should watch bumper cars instead!
Good God, would you please wake up! Hamilton has pushed and shoved people before, they all have!
and thus the big mouth opens again !! And, hey , this is the bigmouth that hit title contender kimi's car in a pitlane! and tried to kick out a faster kimi out of the race just because he was faster and was passing by! I think he should be packed out of F1 along with his bigmouth and made to race in a separate circuit altogether , racing a bunch of old grumpy women.
All this talk of Hamilton being dirty... when has he ever deliberately taken out a competitor by ramming them? Only Shumacher and Massa, in the history of the sport have sunk that low. Funny that both of them drove for Ferrari, the most dishonest team in the history of F1. Everyone wants to point at McLaren last year, but the fact is the first thing McLaren learned was that Ferrari were cheating in 07: Bridgestone had developed the 07 tire to run on CO2, but only Ferrari were given that spec. The FIA clearly knew this an were part of it. If Ferrari could design cars that were the best and win fairy they would, but they can't, so they they cheat instead. The FIA make the most money if Ferrari win, since Ferrari are the most popular team, so the FIA help them cheat. Every Ferrari fan thinks what is going on is great, but in reality they are turning F1 into WWF, a staged show, by their approval. How anyone can be happy to see their team win by cheating is beyond me, but it is what Ferrari and their fans want.
I really dont give a flying (enter expletive) if it was deliberate. Thats what racing should be like, it was entertaining as hell watching him spin him and drive off. If he did it deliberately he put himself at risk of being caught in the tangle so he deserved to drive away spot free.
Any they accusive Hamilton of being an aggressive driver!!! As many have and will say its the very nature of the beast that is motor racing....you race to win simple as. That said Im glad Massa got the punishment he deserved instead of the FIA turning a blind eye to the Ferrari team, which is what seems to be becoming the norm of late.
A move like Massa's happend in 97 aswell... with a car with the same colour. That time he was given a suitable punishment.
some people need to start watching the race without their anti-hamilton & ferrari tinted glasses on. that was blatantly a ram, almost as blatant as the one done by Schumacher on Hill in Adelaide in 1994. It was desperate & looked like the type you see in F3 races. By denying that was deliberate you're only showing how little you really know about racecraft.
Deliberate.. what utter nonsence! Massa only had 2 options: Drive in to the gravel, and lose atleast 3-4 places + Getting his tires dirty, or hitting Lewis, and I´m pretty sure every single racer out there would pick the latter, becaus any other driver with dignity would give Massa the place to go on the inside.. That´s just F1 antics, so please for the sake of F1, drop this "Hamilton is the only driver that´s fair, and everyone who sais otherwise is a lying idiot, who deserves to be slaughtered" attitude!! The funny part is that only and I say O-N-L-Y people who can´t see how dirty a driver Hamilton is, are his fans, who no matter what Hamilton does, think he has the God given right to be right every single time, and when the other DRIVERS come out and say that he is nothing but a cheat and doesn´t know what sportmanship is, then you slaughter the other drivers, for speaking their minds (and God knows they know more about F1 than any commentator or journalist including Niki Lauda and other has beens) so come on guys, step out of it.. Hamilton IS a dirty driver, who simply doesn´t believe that common driver antics and sportsmanship apply for him.. FACT!!!
So much said, I just wonder why the Ferrari's never get penalties for such moves as in turn 1 !! Kimi done it many times..points to ponder..
One again Hamilton pushes a guy out on the grass only this time the other guy doesn't break.. let them have their fun and let the other guys have a shot :)
I don't think the accident was deliberate. It was an accidental error by Massa which he was rightly penalised for. In the past this would have been classed as a racing incident but the blame culture has taken over. Sadly I now see that Hamilton cannot take the pressure and we are now seeing a repeat of 2007. For the last 2 races I am now supporting Kubica for the title.
The reality of all this is that if hamilton was 'ready' to be an F1 champion, he would have won it by now. He has had chance after chance and he just cannot step up and take it. Ferrari are gifting hime the world title because they have lost more points than is credible. BMW would be closer too if they didn't pull resources mid season to put into next years car. Renault, well, if recent races are to go by then they do have the best driver in F1. I would put all my money on Alonso being world champion now if he was in Mclaren this year with Heikki as a fall guy, guaranteed! So, lewis, what will you do next weekend? I expect to see a more arrogant and aggressive drive from him but his drive will be mistake driven because of it. I think we can all assume that Hamilton bottles it when the pressure is on, this will make for exciting racing. What odds on a punch up from him?
To suggest that Massa hit him deliberately suggests that he has the intelligence to think quickly. He rammed Lewis because he's NOT intelligent enough to think quickly. That move could have ended both their races so I don't think it was a deliberate act. However, the aftermath of it is another clear indication of steward stupidity and inpartiality. If there's no conspiracy why doesnt Max do something to suggest otherwise, other than call all the theorists 'numbskulls'?
People seriously need to watch MotoGP, where there are more muscle and elbow tactics used on a piece of machinery with less protection than that of a F1 car. racing is racing, Mr Shumie muscled a few people off a track as well in his time. I watched the race with a few FIArrari supporters (glad to see my new team name is being used by others here), they all thought Massa's moved was uncalled for.
The both of em should just kiss and make up, cos they are quiet similar and deserve each other, Hammy's 1st corner brilliance to run kimi and and flat spot his tyres, fantastic.. Massa's superior driving by running into Lewi then into Bourdais and then a master move on the inside of webber, excellent.. If iether of these clowns become world champion I'm gona be sick. I hope brad pitt (Robert Kubica) wins the title, I will be delighted, Kimi.. we'll get em next season
If Lewis is half as good as he think he is, then why does he come out with this rubbish ? Massa deliberately rammed him ?? eerrr why ?? so he could risk knocking himself out of the race ? Anyway turn 1 / lap 1... "Golden Boy" (Leeeewis) managed to get out dragged into the first corner by both Ferraris.... then force them off the track, Was this deliberate ?? I didnt hear Kimi of Massa moaning that it was a deliverate attempt.
Accept this Hamilton - you lost the race through YOUR driving style and attitude. - so shove it in daddy and ron's pipe and smoke in celebration of Kubica's good drive and new hope for the title!!
No chance this was an accident! Massa saw Hamilton Passing him and made a decision: Take him out. Look at the video, he is behind Hamilton and turned the wheel to cut the corner, had he not done that he would not have been able to hit Hamilton. There was no chance he was going to pass Hamilton, the only possible outcome was the collision. This most certainly was conscious and deliberate.
Lewis is an aggressive driver, he tries to actually get the other driver to move not RAM them. There is a difference to aggressive racing then actually ramming some one. I knew this weekend we would see more Anti lewis, more FIArrari crap... seriously is everyone just becoming a cry baby?
OK Mr.LH, Massa may have deliberately rammed you. But that dose not exonerate you from ruining a perfectly good race by being too hot headed in to the first corner. You were on pole man ! What more do you want ? You had a clear track in front of you and all you had to do was just floor it. No, instead of doing that, you decided to play tough guy with the rest of the field and look where it has got you now. You yourself knew that even if you had finshed behind Massa for the rest of races, you could still win the title. So why take unnessassary risks ? Massa is an idiot and a moron who dose not know where he is going. But he drives for Ferrari and what more can you expect from a Ferrari driver these days ? Ha ? So, please let your driving do the talking and show them that you can. We are with you
OK Mr.LH, Massa may have deliberately ammed you. But that dose not exonerate from ruining a perfectly good race by being too hot headed in to the first corner. You were on pole man ! What more do you want ? You had a clear track in front of you and all you had to do was just floor it. No, instead of doing that, you decided to play tough guy with the rest of the field and look where it has got you now. You yourself knew that even if you had finshed behind Massa for the rest of races, you could still win the title. So why take unnessassary risks ? Massa is an idiot and a moron who dose not know where he is going. But he drives for Ferrari and what more can you expect from a Ferrari driver these days ? Ha ? So, please let your driving do the talking and show them that you can. We are with you
how can you publish this rubbish? hamilton is the most agressive driver in F1 & finally got a bit of his own medicine so he whinges. as if filipe would hit somebody deliberately & almost certainly compromise his own race.
I guess it takes a desperate driver to know a desperate driver. Let the driver meltdowns begin. Hopefully to Kubica's benefit.
Why lose cool and say things and spoil otherwise healthy relationship. Y'day Massa said LH to blame now LH is accusing Massa. As for us viewers it is a case of two mistakes.
fact is fact,,massa took lewis out, took sebastian out and gets rewarded for his efforts, the man is a danger at this stage of the calander, not for points, but for the way he shows no respect for his fellow drivers
Yeah right Mr Lewis, you'll win the next 2 races. Didn't you say you do tyhe talking on the track? The problem though is that your car is slower than the Ferrari and China might be as hot as hell and not rain. Brazil! well we all know the this is Massa land - even the great Shumie knows that. Clearly - you need a miracle man and you've run out of luck - but wait, your great friend or foe Alonso is having a good run as is Kubica that your replyed to sacarstically. The last 2 races ain't just Mclaren and Ferraris it's become a whole lot bigger now. So let's see you do the talking on the track. I say you'll lose like you did last year - why? coz you suffer from black outs.
It is a matter of the kettle calling the pot black!
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Posted Today @ 02:03 View all Speedwise's posts
As the Spanish proverb says: ¿El ladrón cree que todos son de su condición¿ translated to English would be something like: ¿The thief thinks that everybody is just like him¿.